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A list of the various guides, tips, resources and articles submitted to tulpa.info, arranged by their topic. Whether an entry is approved or disapproved depends on tulpa.info's Guide Approval Team (GA
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I mean Guides/Tips & Tricks/Resources/Articles sections
1:07 AM
the tags are just for organizing each board by subject
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Oh, I thought each subheading in that list aside from Misc was entirely in the Guides section (edited)
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No, they're all spread out across the 4 boards
1:08 AM
except Articles
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My bad then sorry
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Do you guys want me to add which category I believe the submission falls under directly in the submission? (edited)
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okay, I'll edit it then.
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One last question... I agree with ponytail that the tone shift is weird. If I simply moved the entire third paragraph to the beginning and called it the preface, would that fix that problem?
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@Gray Having an introductory paragraph that discusses personal experiences and motivations is fine. Personally I think it is fine where it is but you can move it to the beginning if you feel that would contribute to better flow and structure. Should work at the front as well
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Cat_ShadowGriffin BOT 3/18/2019 2:49 AM
I had some questions I left in my responses to submission reviews. In short, 1) Should "tulpa" and "host" be lowercase as Piano recommended? and 2) What's the policy on guide coloration? What happens if multiple system members want to mark different sections in different colors, what's the standard they need to follow?
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I don't think there should be coloration unless it's for emphasis
2:56 AM
if multiple system members want to mark which sections they wrote, they can write [Name] beforehand
2:56 AM
I think it'd be best to just write something like "Co-written by x and y" though (edited)
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Breloomancer 3/18/2019 4:07 AM
If the text changed colors midway through like that it would be super jarring and confusing for someone not familiar with that practice in tulpamancy
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Cat_ShadowGriffin BOT 3/18/2019 5:49 PM
I made some more edits to my draft on the Google doc. To make it easier to read, I decided to pull out all of the highlighter and all of that. I still have not touched the content of the original submission and it will take me some time to apply everyone's feedback to my latest draft. I'm really curious what you guys are going to do once I finish editing my submission...
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Review it again lol
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Breloomancer 3/18/2019 5:56 PM
Probably approve it
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The GAT kinda ignored the capitalizing tulpa thing
6:00 PM
But I'd certainly call tulpa a common noun
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Breloomancer 3/18/2019 6:00 PM
I don't think that it matters
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It matters for grammar purposes
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Breloomancer 3/18/2019 6:02 PM
We said that we didn't care what specific termonology they used so long as it is generally understood and internally consistant
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That isn't terminology though
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Breloomancer 3/18/2019 6:02 PM
If we allow tupper then why not Tulpa
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I wouldn't allow tupper unless it was a one-off joke
6:02 PM
But tulpa isn't a proper noun
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Breloomancer 3/18/2019 6:02 PM
I would
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It's grammatically incorrect
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Breloomancer 3/18/2019 6:03 PM
I think tulpa can be a proper noun
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A common noun names general things and is not capitalized unless it begins a sentence or occurs within a title.
6:03 PM
Tulpa can be a proper noun if it's part of a title
6:03 PM
Like if my name was Apollo the Tulpa
6:03 PM
But not in general use
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Breloomancer 3/18/2019 6:04 PM
I don't really care if it's Tulpa or tulpa or tupper. I would have a problem with mind demon though
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bduddy #Diana# 3/18/2019 6:04 PM
Tupla
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Tupper and mind demon are joke terms
6:06 PM
I think guides should be a bit more serious than that
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Breloomancer 3/18/2019 6:06 PM
People can have legitimate reasons for using tupper
6:06 PM
Like to avoid tulpae vs tulpas
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Tulpae isn't a joke term even if it's dumb
6:09 PM
I agree
6:10 PM
People can argue its merits I guess, I don't think you can argue that tulpa is a proper noun
6:11 PM
Even if we were talking metaphysics they still wouldn't be a proper noun
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@Xe while it's not up for review yet, I did drop a review on your switching guide if you want to get started reading that and arguing with us :P https://community.tulpa.info/thread-switching-how-to-switch?pid=244701#pid244701
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I'd prefer not to argue (that's why I left tulpa.info for the first time), but I'm willing to discuss it
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I'd hope that's what the :p was for, although sometimes jokes can be truth
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Cadey, could you provide another back-up link to your guide in the post? Just in case the link/site provided ever went kaput
4:09 AM
or I suppose if you're planning on making edits then you could wait until it gets approved to do that
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@Felight working on it
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I am not going to make a full review of the guide right now, but reading over your review, Annabell, the singular they is entirely gramatically correct
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@Bethel🌸 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they singular they is gendra
Singular they is the use in English of the pronoun they or its inflected or derivative forms, them, their, theirs, and themselves (or themself), as an epicene (gender-neutral) singular pronoun. It typically occurs with an unspecified antecedent, as in sentences such as: "So...
10:52 AM
Er
10:52 AM
Grammatically correct, not gendra
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they work for me
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They load for me too. On mobile Firefox they load but appear distorted, stretched vertically due to some CSS issues with large-ish images in the mobile theme. Maybe your connection is failing to load archive.org images, or maybe your phone can't handle that many images at a go.
6:07 AM
I've also saved the images from that page in case something does happen to them. Right now they're loading from an archive.org snapshot of iminus.com since that image host seems to have died.
6:08 AM
Oh. Or your mobile carrier had a bad route to archive.org's server
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bduddy #Diana# 4/16/2019 1:10 AM
have any of the guides previously "under review" had any action taken?
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Breloomancer 4/16/2019 1:10 AM
None of them have been approved, for various different reasons
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bduddy #Diana# 4/16/2019 1:11 AM
maybe you should say that here then?
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but that's mean
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Breloomancer 4/16/2019 1:12 AM
A lot of them didn't get approved simply due to the OP not responding
1:12 AM
They could still get approved, they just haven't been yet
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bduddy #Diana# 4/16/2019 1:13 AM
what does the OP responding have to do with a guide being approved?
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they have to edit the stuff that we point out to them
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Deleted User 4/16/2019 1:15 AM
Yeah it's pretty much like freedom of speech except the Administration has to approve it first
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Question about that - when my guides come up for review, they are in video form. I believe they will be approved without need for edits but in the event that they do, what would be done about that? Add a small disclaimer or comment above the video link?
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I don't know, that's a valid question
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For me, I'm still waiting on a review. I basically have to re-draft my guide, which is to be expected since the only other peer review I got was a different friend of mine's. @Kopase I had that concern too because videos are A LOT OF WORK, especially since you have animations to go with it. We can watch the videos, and then we can give you feedback, but if they need revision than give us the transcripts and a rough story board so you don't have to make a video every time.
2:18 AM
My hope is if you need edits, then you can salvage most of you video and cut / add things, however I'm not sure how you made your videos or how you animated it.
2:19 AM
Again, you should only go through that headache after full approval.
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A long kiss goodnight 4/16/2019 2:46 AM
@salad Just to make sure I'm understanding this correctly- is your compressed video using snippets from your other videos or does it have its own transcript? (edited)
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Deleted User 4/16/2019 3:07 AM
tl;dr you have to rerender the whole video and make small changes at the whim of the gat :^)
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Hey, downside to the video format, can't compromise quality because it's hard to make edits
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Breloomancer 4/16/2019 3:09 AM
The compressed video is its own thing, it was made first
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Deleted User 4/16/2019 3:09 AM
I don't think video guides are very suited to internet forums though
3:09 AM
The reason there's a guide section to begin with is because people have shared guides predominately through text
3:10 AM
What scope is there, other than hosting a video on youtube and making a forum thread linking to it?
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My videos are not cut and edited, nor will they be
5:16 AM
Frankly I doubt that you'll find more than cursory and non-major errors in them
5:17 AM
But hinging approval on small edits is not the way to go, I think. To require a guide to correct every small error one can think of defeats the concept of having multiple guides.
5:18 AM
"Don't host them on the forum" is not a good solution either because these videos are an important resource for individuals who struggle to read through long blocks of text, and while you may think that's a minority of people or "not the kind of person who can be dedicated to a tulpa" you'd be dead wrong in thinking so. People are very often intimidated by long blocks of text which is why I chose to make videos
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cough I'm bringing it up to the rest of the GAT to discuss :P
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Either way I'm actually disappointed to hear that none of these guides have been approved. Some have had genuinely good information and been turned down because minor edits weren't made? Really? I'd like you to please de-list every single approved guide on the site if that's the new level of strictness.
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and when "I'll approve it after this edit" is presented and they don't edit their stuff at all... MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
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Why is approval hinging on those small edits though? It should be more "approved but please change this section or add this info" and only hinge on an edit when there is a serious issue
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kinda par for the course that stuff won't get approved. Plus, several of these have been cases of people asking to move their stuff to a later date. Over half of them, actually
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True, I did forget about that. But my qualms still stand
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Scratch that, literally only Within didn't ask the date to be moved (edited)
5:24 AM
and Within made no changes to their submission at all and didn't even communicate for two full weeks. I don't think they were interested in the first place
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all of them asked for it to be moved?
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Yup
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Huh. Alright then. But still I'd ask for the team to be more willing to actually approve of things
5:26 AM
I'm a hardass editor but it's important to understand that no content is perfect
5:26 AM
If the information is generally correct and helpful, then it should be approved. Most guides currently approved are neither of those things.
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Well, when submissions start slowing down, we'll probably revisit certain guides in order to unapprove them
5:27 AM
First of which will be Tulpa's guide
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